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Будда говорит об этом в МН 36: Маха-Saccaka Сутта. Это довольно длинный и подробный проход, в котором он описывает, как он ходил к разным учителям, которые научили его Jhanas и заморил свое тело до крайности. Его история резюмирует экстремальные способы практики, которые следует избегать применения Срединного пути: во-первых живут в небрежении о насыщении плоти и роскошь, вырастая в мощную семью, тогда оставляя этот живой позади и почти голодали себя до смерти.

Я подумал: "все, что отшельники и созерцатели в прошлом испытывали болезненные, раздирающие, пронзающие чувства из-за их стремление, это самое главное. Ни один не был больше, чем это. Какие бы отшельники и созерцатели в будущем будет чувствовать болезненные, раздирающие, пронзающие чувства из-за их стремление, это самое главное. Не будет больше этого. Все, что отшельники и созерцатели в настоящее время чувствуете болезненные, раздирающие, пронзающие чувства из-за их стремление, это самое главное. Никто не больше, чем это. Но с этой вешалки аскетические практики я не достиг какого-либо вышестоящего человека, государства, какого-либо отличия в знании и видении, достойное благородных. Мог ли быть другой путь к пробуждению?'

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